Performance is getting worse with every patch

People with giga expensive PCs are also having problems and there's so many threads about it in both bug reports and technical support, that's a fact omegalul

This game's performance is getting worse because they just don't prioritize real optimization, and they do lazy backporting of PoE 2 assets instead of making real original content for PoE 1.

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Toforto#2372 wrote:

People with giga expensive PCs are also having problems and there's so many threads about it in both bug reports and technical support, that's a fact omegalul

Players who are using the forums are the factual minority and in no way, shape or form represent the broad playerbase as a whole. While issues on some specific or badly configured mid/higher end systems exist, the game - as a whole, on average - runs and performs perfectly fine.

Click on any YouTuber or Twitch Streamer doing content for this game. These people tend to know how to configure their systems and their game runs fine.

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Toforto#2372 wrote:

This game's performance is getting worse because they just don't prioritize real optimization, and they do lazy backporting of PoE 2 assets instead of making real original content for PoE 1.

You don't even know what real optimization is, or looks like. You have no horse in this race, Toffy. And no, a UE4 game from 2019 running on your 2016 hardware is not a viable performance metric by any means.

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Celestriad#0304 wrote:

You don't even know what real optimization is, or looks like.

Oh I absolutely do know what a well-optimized game looks like. And PoE with all its pointlessly flashy MTX and useless particle effects, along with bricked up shaders ain't it kekw

Stuff like the Bismuth ore particles,wildwood wisps,delirium,originator maps have horrible performance if you're not on some NASA PC. Having an expensive enough overkill PC doesn't mean the game runs well, it just means you can brute-force ignore the bad optimization, doesn't make it go away for other users though.


This game is in desperate need of login to hideout,hide mtx button and some real optimization. Otherwise they're just gonna price most of their playerbase out eventually. Because the average Steam user according to the yearly surveys has a PC similar to mine.


So yeah, I'm an expert at this topic. I know what I'm talking about.

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Toforto#2372 wrote:

Oh I absolutely do know what a well-optimized game looks like. And PoE with all its pointlessly flashy MTX and useless particle effects, along with bricked up shaders ain't it kekw

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Toforto#2372 wrote:

Stuff like the Bismuth ore particles,wildwood wisps,delirium,originator maps have horrible performance

Do you have any confidential source showing that the “pointlessly flashy” MTX or the “useless” particle effects are actually unoptimized, or any evidence that the shaders are broken?

Because right now the only clear issue being pointed to is older hardware that simply is not able to handle more demanding games very well and hardware struggling to keep up is something any actual expert can recognize and explain.

So I would be interested to see any confidential source you can share that proves your point, since there does not seem to be anything from GGG stating that their systems are unoptimized or that they are currently working on fixing them. And if there were genuinely a fundamental issue here, it would have surfaced and been addressed over the years rather than just left unresolved. The fact that nothing has been “fixed” is usually a pretty strong hint that there is nothing actually broken in the first place, just hardware that is not keeping up with what the game is doing.

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Toforto#2372 wrote:

So yeah, I'm an expert at this topic. I know what I'm talking about.

Because you “know what you’re talking about”? That’s doing a lot of work for someone who already said they’re not familiar with hardware or coding, yet still confident enough to call it the game being unoptimized. What exactly is that conclusion based on, and what evidence with any real substance are you using to back up that opinion?

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VoidWhisperer42#5989 wrote:

So I would be interested to see any confidential source you can share that proves your point

My source is me. The evidence is because I said so.

I'm not here to argue,debate or prove anything to anyone, there's no need to when all the proof is already in the bug reports and technical support section of the forums~

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Toforto#2372 wrote:

My source is me. The evidence is because I said so.

Thanks for clarifying.

So you don’t actually have any source to back up your claim, yet you’re still presenting it as if it overrides everyone else’s perspective and evidence. At that point it’s hard to see what further discussion is supposed to achieve, because no matter what other players say, you don’t seem open to reconsidering your position.

Even if someone from GGG came into the conversation and said the same thing, it feels like it would still be dismissed in favour of the same assumption. That shifts it away from anything evidence-based and closer to a “trust me bro” argument being treated as fact.

What stands out is the disconnect between claiming certainty as an “expert,” while previously stating you don’t actually have familiarity with hardware or coding, yet still dismissing input from players who do have experience or knowledge in those areas or the topic more broadly. That makes it difficult to reconcile the confidence in the conclusion with the lack of supporting evidence behind it.

At that point it stops functioning as a discussion and just becomes repeating a conclusion regardless of what information is provided, which is usually where threads start going in circles until moderation has to step in.

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VoidWhisperer42#5989 wrote:

because no matter what other players say, you don’t seem open to reconsidering your position.

Yep. Because I know how the game's performance has degraded over the years, I've literally seen it happen in real time. So I know I'm right.

There's nothing to reconsider, the only thing I care about is this game getting proper optimization. Which probably won't happen until there are 2 dedicated dev teams for PoE 1 and Poe 2 and the early access ends for that game too. Because right now its obvious which game is getting more attention and time lul

I see no need to to back up my "claims", or provide proof, or do any of that. All I'm doing is giving feedback about the game's bad performance. You don't have to prove a thing to anyone if you're simply speaking the truth.

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Toforto#2372 wrote:

Yep. Because I know how the game's performance has degraded over the years, I've literally seen it happen in real time. So I know I'm right.

What you’re describing is largely the result of games advancing over time while your hardware has not kept pace. As a result, it’s natural to experience declining performance when your system is no longer capable of handling newer demands.

However, your hardware struggling to keep up doesn’t, on its own, say much about whether a game is well-optimized. It simply indicates that your PC has reached its performance limits relative to current requirements, which is an expected outcome as technology progresses.

So while your experience is valid, it isn’t necessarily evidence that the game is poorly optimized. More often, it reflects the reality that modern games are developed with newer hardware in mind, and optimization targets tend to align with contemporary performance standards rather than older systems.

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Toforto#2372 wrote:

There's nothing to reconsider, the only thing I care about is this game getting proper optimization. Which probably won't happen until there are 2 dedicated dev teams for PoE 1 and Poe 2 and the early access ends for that game too. Because right now its obvious which game is getting more attention and time lul

There is always a need to substantiate claims especially when the goal is to convince others. That is what credibility is built on. A statement without evidence has limited value as meaningful feedback even if it is strongly believed. An opinion is not automatically truth simply by being stated as such.

You claim the game is unoptimized and runs poorly but that remains an unsupported assertion. In contrast multiple players point out that performance issues are largely tied to hardware limitations which is supported by observable behavior in demanding modern games.

Looking closer at the hardware involved it becomes clear why the experience may feel unoptimized to you. Entry level hardware from over a decade ago simply has not aged well and is no longer suited for modern gaming demands in 2026.

So on one side there is a personal claim based on assertion and on the other there is a technical explanation grounded in hardware capability and widely accepted industry understanding. Developers PC builders and hardware experts would all generally reach the same conclusion that the system in question is outdated underpowered for current requirements and it is reasonable to recommend an upgrade regardless of the specific title in mind.

Meanwhile the counterargument is essentially “trust me bro” reasoning without data benchmarking or technical validation which does not hold up in a serious technical discussion.

A simple analogy makes this clear

You can go to a restaurant eat a meal and say it tastes bad. That is still subjective opinion. If others confirm the dish is prepared correctly then your reaction does not make it a factual issue.

But if the cook actually makes a mistake like oversalting or burning the food then the complaint reflects an objective problem rather than personal preference.

At that point I would recommend you go to your local retailer and ask an expert to assess the situation for you, especially if you do not trust the credibility and knowledge of other forum users.
I would bet a 10 dollar McDonalds coupon the experienced person behind the counter would arrive at the same conclusion regarding the hardware limitations and overall suitability for current software demands.

They would likely also ask if you are interested in upgrading to a new PC that meets those requirements. And who knows, the nice guy or lady in person might have a bit more charisma to convince you :)

This game's performance has been getting worse with every patch, that's a fact I don't have to prove to anyone. Hardware has nothing to do with it when back in Harvest league it ran perfectly fine on the exact same PC I have kek

And nothing will ever convince me otherwise. Even when I inevitably get a new PC for free, I will still point out the bad optimization this game has.

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Toforto#2372 wrote:

This game's performance has been getting worse with every patch, that's a fact I don't have to prove to anyone. Hardware has nothing to do with it when back in Harvest league it ran perfectly fine on the exact same PC I have kek

Because you are unable to prove that the game is at fault for the performance issues you are running into, the explanation naturally falls back to the only consistently verifiable factor, which is hardware limitations. On the other hand, it is straightforward to identify the issue as your system lacking the power required to run a continuously evolving and increasingly demanding game.

You even describe it quite clearly yourself. The game ran fine during Harvest league, which was nearly six years ago, and at that time it was much closer to what your hardware could handle. However, over those six years, a large amount has changed, improved, and been added, all of which has made the game significantly more demanding.

Your entry level hardware from over a decade ago simply does not cut the minimum requirements anymore. It is that simple.

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Toforto#2372 wrote:

Even when I inevitably get a new PC for free, I will still point out the bad optimization this game has.

That largely depends on the PC you get. If the PC you get is another entry level system, even if it is newer, performance still will not be top tier. It will, however, be a noticeable improvement over your current setup simply because the PC you get will benefit from more advanced and efficient hardware.

Of course, claiming the game is unoptimized does not make it true. What you are presenting without any substantiated evidence is an opinion, and by nature, opinions can vary from person to person. This is very different from objective, verifiable facts, which remain consistent regardless of perspective.
But some might even wonder, if the game truly were as unoptimized and unfun as claimed, why someone would continue sticking around for so long in the first place.