critical constructive feedback: The loudest opinions aren’t always the most valuable.

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Evergrey#7535 wrote:

Now read the comments and see how your post became what you warn against.

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Oinkaments#6390 wrote:

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Evergrey#7535 wrote:

Now read the comments and see how your post became what you warn against.

Exactly this.

Let's remember that OP also has a thread titled with the following title:

"GGG need to make manifesto about getting rid of zoomers/casuals or tuning to poe 1 pace"

The slow pacers that want the game to be bricked are actually a tiny but by extremely far the loudest part of the community.

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AssaultUnit#6080 wrote:

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Oinkaments#6390 wrote:

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Evergrey#7535 wrote:

Now read the comments and see how your post became what you warn against.

Exactly this.

Let's remember that OP also has a thread titled with the following title:

"GGG need to make manifesto about getting rid of zoomers/casuals or tuning to poe 1 pace"

The slow pacers that want the game to be bricked are actually a tiny but by extremely far the loudest part of the community.

Why do you want two PoE1 games?

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Oinkaments#6390 wrote:

I don't. In fact I haven't touched POE1 since 2018.
I just don't want my mobility/movement speed to be bricked like they had in 0.4

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AssaultUnit#6080 wrote:

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Oinkaments#6390 wrote:

I don't. In fact I haven't touched POE1 since 2018.
I just don't want my mobility/movement speed to be bricked like they had in 0.4

Then what do you want done different in PoE2 from PoE1? Why not play PoE1, what don't you like about it?

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Oinkaments#6390 wrote:

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AssaultUnit#6080 wrote:

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Oinkaments#6390 wrote:

I don't. In fact I haven't touched POE1 since 2018.
I just don't want my mobility/movement speed to be bricked like they had in 0.4

Then what do you want done different in PoE2 from PoE1? Why not play PoE1, what don't you like about it?

Inferior gem system, no WASD.

There's absolutely no need to brick movement speed on boots or bricking teleport unless you want the player to feel miserable walking through poor designed pathing large maps.

They can reduce pack size, you can play all the combo you want I don't give a damn if they do that if that's somehow what people want to see.

Just stop bricking movement speed and ruining itemization in general.

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karsey#2995 wrote:

It's part of the problem with having a pawl + ratchet mechanism of game development for live service games that also have an intermittent reward loop design.

You continuously offer increased rewards, loot, and power in a game that doles these things out in an intermittent manner to attract players back league after league and 20 leagues later what you've done is cultivated a player base which is mostly composed of people who play not because they enjoy the process of discovering or mastering systems within the game, but because they enjoy the intermittent manner in which they acquire rewards, loot, and power.

It's closely associated with addiction and other forms of physiological dysregulation, so this majority portion of the playerbase is also prone to irritability, anxiety, and other symptoms of emotional dysregulation potentially including withdrawal symptoms.

Of course, this doesn't apply to EVERY player, but it is very common, and it's why it seems like there are many people who play this game who do not even really like this game. They can have 1000s of hours and will have a negative opinion on the game. Yet they won't stop playing it. There's a reason for this kind of dissonance.

A large part of the playerbase will always advocate and desire for further live service updates to increase rewards, loot, and power - in an continuous and insatiable manner, and they will always be the loudest because they are prone to being so. Some of the less self-aware players will even be confused as to why there's any friction in the game at all, because they view anything that isn't loot, power, or rewards only as something they are forced to tolerate.

I think the developers caught on to this too late with PoE1, the horse had already left the barn and going back would essentially create a scenario where they end up abandoning the majority of their cultivated playerbase.

I'm hoping they are a bit more aware of this aspect for further PoE2 updates but if you've ever wondered why it seems like most PoE1 players don't end up liking PoE2, just imagine how an addict might respond when they go for a hit and find out it's not as potent as they're used to. You're not likely to get a positive response, in fact, you're even more likely to get a hostile response lol.