Power creep meta ruined builds

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No offense, but ur conclusion is wrong. It just means that u don't know enough about the game yet.

U can make so many things work in PoE that are not meta, it just takes more effort und might not be as fast/clean as the well known builds, hence why they are considered meta.
Usually newer players don't realize the potential because they just don't know as much about the game yet and that's fine.

Stat stackers might be the end all be all for late late late endgame if u wanna rush 100% deli full juiced maps or do 5 shapers/second, but there's alot in between that and a build that can't clear T16s.

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For anyone who doubts this all you have to do is click on over to Mathil's stream, and tune into what he's working on. Every league he theory crafts and tests dozens of build ideas and has near 100% success rate in making them work to the point they're clearing all content with maybe exception to ubers. Don't be so shortsighted in thinking that the game paints you into a corner.

"just invest 10 mirrors on sunder it can kill ubers easily every skill in poe works just invest in it"

Lowest form of ragebait in these forums.

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TempestMind#6309 wrote:

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No offense, but ur conclusion is wrong. It just means that u don't know enough about the game yet.

U can make so many things work in PoE that are not meta, it just takes more effort und might not be as fast/clean as the well known builds, hence why they are considered meta.
Usually newer players don't realize the potential because they just don't know as much about the game yet and that's fine.

Stat stackers might be the end all be all for late late late endgame if u wanna rush 100% deli full juiced maps or do 5 shapers/second, but there's alot in between that and a build that can't clear T16s.

100%

For anyone who doubts this all you have to do is click on over to Mathil's stream, and tune into what he's working on. Every league he theory crafts and tests dozens of build ideas and has near 100% success rate in making them work to the point they're clearing all content with maybe exception to ubers. Don't be so shortsighted in thinking that the game paints you into a corner.

No offense but clearing T16 with white trash mobs is possible for literally every single gem when you know the skill tree.

Ubers are already a good measurement for how well an archetype preforms. And if you need 5 mirrors to make sunder Uber viable compared to a 5 divine Bannerman build, there is something significant wrong in the game.

I melt Uber Exarch in matter of seconds, not even allowing him to enter his ball phase, and my build is a complete 20-divine trash off-meta build.

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Johny_Snow#4778 wrote:

I melt Uber Exarch in matter of seconds, not even allowing him to enter his ball phase, and my build is a complete 20-divine trash off-meta build.

if you're talking about the warden then the boots alone are more than 20 divs

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Druidenjoyer#0031 wrote:

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Johny_Snow#4778 wrote:

I melt Uber Exarch in matter of seconds, not even allowing him to enter his ball phase, and my build is a complete 20-divine trash off-meta build.

if you're talking about the warden then the boots alone are more than 20 divs

Less than 10. And they do nothing against a single boss anyway, their main purpose is for me to move around like I have an Acceleration shrine/Mageblood.

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Johny_Snow#4778 wrote:

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Druidenjoyer#0031 wrote:

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Johny_Snow#4778 wrote:

I melt Uber Exarch in matter of seconds, not even allowing him to enter his ball phase, and my build is a complete 20-divine trash off-meta build.

if you're talking about the warden then the boots alone are more than 20 divs

Less than 10. And they do nothing against a single boss anyway, their main purpose is for me to move around like I have an Acceleration shrine/Mageblood.

no not less than 10. the cheapest one on trade right now is 45 divs. and they dont even have max roll on elusive effect like you have

the fact that you dont even know how much your gear costs is very telling. was it gifted to you?

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Druidenjoyer#0031 wrote:

no not less than 10. the cheapest one on trade right now is 45 divs. and they dont even have max roll on elusive effect like you have

I hate to break it to you, but 10 divine is actually quite realistic. Have you considered that you can craft many of these items yourself instead of buying them from trade?

Looking at the boots in question, there is really nothing extraordinary about them. If we break it down by raw currency value, assuming someone already has the base items and simply combines them using an Awakener’s Orb, we are talking roughly 5 divine for the Tailwind base. The elevated Elusive is not listed as a base, but it is far from prohibitively expensive. Add in an Awakener’s Orb and let us generously estimate 5 divine. We are looking at around 15 divine for a pair of boots that essentially feels like smashing two bases together and enjoying the extra zoom zoom.

In reality, you do not even have to pay 5 divine for the Tailwind base.
With a bit of alt-spamming, you could craft it for free.
The same applies to the Elusive base. The only slightly pricier part of self-crafting is elevating the Elusive, but if crafted early in the league, it can be extremely cheap since the orbs are not costly at that time. Orbs only become more expensive as the league progresses, demand rises, and supply falls.

So yes, 10 divine is very realistic. Just because you see an item listed for 45 divine 4 weeks into a league on trade does not mean the dude spent that much. Many items are being listed high for people who love to scam themselves on trade by buying straightforward crafts that would cost only a fraction of the listed price. It's called profit crafting.

you're assuming that he self crafted it for the lowest price possible.(he didnt) but sure lets assume the boots are 15 divs, that leaves 5 more for the rest of his build. i didnt check other gear but i know it would be more than 5 divs. so he was lying about the whole build being 20 divs. that was my point. some people like to pretend that they can beat the game on a shoestring budget but they are not really fooling anyone.

It’s entirely plausible that their build cost roughly what they’ve mentioned at some point during the league, or that they’ve already completed most of the content on a more stripped-down version and simply pushed the build further because they had the spare currency to do so. It’s really not that deep or crazy to clear all content on a shoelace budget. Being real, you don’t need some insane 300-divine budget or the latest, hottest overhyped builds to accomplish that.

Shoelace budgets can vary widely, even all the way down to 1d as we’ve seen countless players show off what some would call meme builds because they aren’t the latest or most hyped setups. Or look at SSF players, who crush the entire game without a 20d budget. For them, every item essentially has no market value since they don’t go out and price-check every single piece on trade to estimate their net worth. And yet, they destroy all content in less than a week on pure shoelace gear.

It’s not really that crazy or impossible to do such things anymore. Years of power creep and accumulated knowledge have already solved most of the challenges. You either know what you’re doing and can clear content on any budget, or you don’t. That’s what actually matters in PoE. You could hand someone a 200d budget and they might still struggle to surpass Alc&Go T16 maps, while someone else with some random thrown-together gear worth less than three days of playtime rushes through Ubers in SSF.