Another league with a significant drop from steam/tourist retention.

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Kopogero#0635 wrote:

I share this with the community because this is not the second or third month into a four month league cycle, but we're still into the first. Today is April the 2nd while Mirage launched March the 6th steam numbers of around 50k concurrent players from 157k into the second (not first) week, which means over two thirds of steam users (tourists) have stopped playing.

Retention is what sells supporter packs not league launches. When these "tourists" are gone it means they're elsewhere, which means whatever else they're playing/supporting is equal or better (free or not to play).

What we do know based on this data is that the current league design formula is not good enough for the majority of steam users/tourists, but will it be enough for GGG to keep doing the same or will have to re-examine both the core game and league concept design?


There's two questions.

1) Will the current employees at GGG eventually be able to design the type of ARPG that retains at least half of these tourists through half of the league cycles or will they eventually lose the other 33% from a better competition?

2) When your retention ends, why and at what threshold your retention needs to be before you'll purchase a league supporter pack?


Mirage for me has been a solid league when I compare it with the last few. Since I'm exclusively a SSF hardcore player I play the game solely to compete with / against the community and that means it has to have a lucrative ladder/ranking system (currently most don't know or care who are the top ranked for good reason).

Less overpowered builds that carry the masses and the league to introduce challenging experience that's fun solving/overcoming faster/better from the rest. That being said my retention would've ended around the third week, but thanks to the Gauntlet event it will be extended to around the middle of April and that means another competitive event, perhaps similar to Phrecia needs to happen to see myself playing for two out of four months, which is the minimum to purchase a $30 supporter pack and the next will be $60 if back to back leagues my retention is over two months.

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H3rB1985#0551 wrote:

The issues are the servers, you can bet on that.

Many people are just fed up when 1 week nothing works and their juiced maps are gone.

They just move on then and play something else.

League is solid, nothing special but not as bad as keepers.

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Vendetta#0327 wrote:

I mean it ain't fun to have the same damn wand wanderers and some of the old builds again and again and again :(...And knowing GGG they will nerf again but forget to buff something else to shift the meta

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VoidWhisperer42#5989 wrote:

I mean, you’re free to play whatever you want. Why limit yourself to whatever happens to be the current popular pick, when in reality you can just choose what YOU actually enjoy playing?

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tsunamikun#0433 wrote:

Because performance matters, its that easy